Hope someone really knows why they designed the "S" shaped tonearm. Press J to jump to the feed. Could this mean that Keith is considering a turntable and is quietly working out his options? Hello everyone I'm new to the forum, thank you. Hope this helps. here is some reading for you Keith regarding tracking errors. Other than less tracking error, any other pros or cons? With a curved arm youbhave to rotate it. November 11, 2009 in Vinyl and Turntables. He is up and about and functioning similar to his old self. I appreciate whatever advice you have to offer. Hi, for those bros have played enough with turntables: is there significant difference between the straight arm design vs the curved arm (J-shape, like the SL1200) in terms of sound quality? As you no doubt know, the S-shape is just so the headshell, where the cartridge is parallel to the sides of the headshell, fits. Home Forums > AudioKarma Audio Forums > Turntables > AK IS19 YEARS OLD, SO WE'RE HAVING A RAFFLE. Your cable company in their laziness may have run their wires thru your vents, rather than drill the appropriate hole, and ripped your vent screens. But then again you could fill a book with stuff I don't know. Basic physics is at work here. I am sure the VPI and Regas in this price range are the same. He has made great progress in his recovery. Where are the super "S" arms? Also, if you are a mix DJ stuck with straight arms and you don't want to put undue wear on your vinyl you can just angle the carts in the headstock. Over lap the runs by But most of the main points were made. by BLUEPEARLAUDIO 10 Feb 2008 19:16, Post Jake and Wolster - can't a man ask a simple question without everyone speculating about his analog plans! You have to adjust the angle of your needle to the center of the tone arm column. A linear tonearm has zero tracking error. This design totally reduces the Does that have some sort of foil wrapped around the cartridge wires? Dismiss Notice; S-shaped arm vs linear tracker vs straight arm? This leaves a bunch of crud on the brush, which I sweep off with a dry sponge. PLEASE RECHECK THE WINNERS LIST. There seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread. So I dry brush them once again while spinning on the turntable, using a Hunt EDA Mark 6 brush ($20 from Acoustic Sounds) for this final swipe. The shape of the tonearm is important in so far as it affects the torsional rigidity of the tonearm. Because no torque is being created, the record will be less prone to skipping. Perhaps would work for me as well? Try and relocate the wires if you can. Topic for today: Straight or curved tonearms on turntables? Not much really if you're DJing. a curved arm of the right profile could be statically balanced by distributing the mass equally on either side of the "imaginary" straight line connecting the pivot to the stylus. I know the answer, there is an important reason! by analogous 10 Feb 2008 16:27, Post The wall mounted shelf will help as well. Discussion in 'Turntables' started by coppercitymt, Aug 28, 2012. But my Prime, with it's heavy platter, excellent bearing and tripple belts, and aided by Phoenix Engineering Roadrunner Tachometer and Eagle PSU, is it's equal both measurably and sonically. By So, Warwick, are you saying that an S shaped arm would have more torsional rigidity but at the expense of more mass? I've never really been able to Powered by Invision Community. As mentioned above, straight tonearms have the headshell offset, so its not realy straight. I dare say cost in manufacturing will also play a roll. The only real difference is the angle at which your cartridge ends up facing. Roy Gandy, designer and manufacturer of the game-changing Rega pickup arms,proselytizes that it is a straightwandwhich can be made stiffer than an S-shaped one. Say an isolation platter?. 4. I think the best way is to try the Audio Craft AC3000MC / AC4000MC with multiply armtubes of the different shapes. I've never really been able to figure out what the difference is and I've only ever owned S shaped arms. Unfortunately the wiring harness got damaged and I now have to replace it. SME, whose arms in the 1960's and 70's (Series 2 and 3) wereS-shaped, does the same. Was wondering if some vinyl gurus on SNA could clear up a question I have had for a while. In the Second Coming, written in 1919, Yeats wrote: It is a sad commentary upon the times when we can't sort out definitively the pluses and minuses of a mature technology like tonearms, but have no trouble at all getting a bead on the emanations Tweeting from the White House. I am planning on upgrading my Rega in the near future. With a friend it should not take you very much time. Thanks. I regret ever selling them. Then I thought it was entirely based on having detachable headshells that a curved arm would allow to screw on "straight" onto the arm so the cartridge offset would be based on arm geometry while at the same time allowing headshell mounting to be "straight ahead.". What's frustrating with all of this is when I placed the vinyl on the platter, to my eye it would appear perfectly clean, and even so, I would still clean it with a distilled water/alcohol solution. As you guys said. Thanks. curved sounds better on vinyl and produces less record wear. If you follow the angle of the headshell backward in a straight line, you'll see that it puts the pivot point waaaaaaay off to the right. With the movement to non removable headshells I would imagine it was simpler and cheaper to just have a straight arm wand. And the electronics sit against a load bearing wall, so finding good support isn't a problem. It is definitely apparent that straight arms with offset headshells are the dominant shape these days but I've never really investigated why this is the case. In short, these are two superb turntables and both sound terrific. Since the shortest, most efficient line from the bearing to the needle would be a straight line, I could only relate to straight arms. by Abandonflip 10 Feb 2008 19:07, Post naglfar, With the standard Rega "straight" arm it is, to me, a great buy. Maybe the wise old hands can give me some advice. I disassembled the arm and discovered that the yellow earth wire was not connected on the tonearm side and only to the eart stud on the turntable. Case in point, the SME Series III is an "S" arm which does not have this feature. I doubt he is looking at a vintage separate arm! BradOlson, Jan 8, 2003 #2. I think the OP was talking about straight arms with an offset/overhang, not DJ straight arms where the arm is short and the headshell is parallel to the arm. Continuum used shape optimisation software to arrive at their unusual design which is hardly the same as the idea behind a simple tapered arm tube. I have not found a good substitute for great bearings and a massive platter. Check your crawl door for proper fit and make sure it closes snuggly and is lockable. This is just speculation on my part but I think that S shaped arms probably evolved when all headshells were of the removable variety. When using the Fozgometer I find the ability to adjust azimuth on the fly withthe vernier adjustment on my Well Tempered Classic arm veryconvenient opposed tothe crudely limited head-shell adjustment of my S shaped Technics arm. The pivot will change. What is really funny is that all record lathes have linear arms and direct drives. I read Robert Greene's review of the SL1200G in TAS last night. StereoNET (Australia) is part of an international network of publications owned wholly by Sound Media Group (Australia). Which is way off topic. It is necessary for the tonearm to have as little flex as possible. then you would love my double s grado signature tonearm. What's the official name for those turntables with a curved arm? I don't know about the whys either. What brf and Lewm said is correct and now add helomech. All the different shapes and designs of arms try to minimize tracking errors across the playing arc. Keep it locked. I had never imagined such a thing until I tore the bathroom apart for a major remodel. The blackness of the backgrounds was remarkable to me. I've got a couple hundred LP's sitting here that I "gave up on" ten years ago because everytime I went to play them, my phono needle either got clogged with lint/dust or some sort of grungy substance. There is no doubt that tonearm geometry is critical when you get to analyzing minute resolving powers of the best, but your drive system is the heart-beat of vinyl. Then they play fine, with no noise, no grunge. By clicking links on our site, we may earn affiliate commission, but our editorial remains entirely independent and unbiased. Straight configurations will take less space width wise. All original. I'm only being curious!!! Straight vs. curved tonearms - Vinyl and Turntables - StereoNET International Vinyl and Turntables Straight vs. curved tonearms By Keith_W, November 11, 2009 in Vinyl Then I would put the patio block down on top of the vapor barrier and do your supports as you see fit. I use an old velveteen brush (from my Discwasher days of the 80's)to "pre-brush" the visible lint and dust from them. Indeed, there are reports of users preferring the Basis Vector tonearm to the Air Tangent linear tracking arm due to its lower maintenance and equally low tracking distortion. Then I wet-clean them with the VPI. Related question: Has there ever been a curved or "s" shaped unipivot arm? With DVS, it doesn't really matter that much. Arms are normally of three different types; straight (I-shaped), J, and S. The head shell is at an angle to the arm axis, the arm pivot. I see these outrageous prices for them and the majority have straight and some have curved like the SME. Which other tonearm besides the Continuum Cobra and Copperhead uses a secondary bearing for what would otherwise constitute a unipivot? HERE, TO CHECK THE WINNERS LIST. by JaS 10 Feb 2008 18:08, Post by Guest 10 Feb 2008 18:53, Post The advantage is the ability to place the cartridge square in the headshell and achieve offset angle. On an axe head, the poll is there specifically to act as a counter balance to the bit. Well what we usually refer to as "straight" arms are not actually straight, as the cartridge is offset. A real straight dj tonearm has horrible tra Easier to make a straight tube design rigid (for a given mass). I'm looking for a table under $3500, not vintage. Comon' can somebody help before I spend too much for actually nothing. $29.99 $ 29. I searched the forums and couldn't find anything regarding tracking and tone arm design. My order of importance is:1.) With all this said, Ive spent countless hours on creating the best straight tone arm possible for Technics 1200s. For a straight tonearm the accuracy of the headshell offset angle is very important for the lowest possible tracking error and unfortunately not al Lets address the floor issue first. www.musicdirect.com has many isolation platforms, but the heavy foot-falls will require more than that. As does the Basis Vector. Either can sound very good if matched to the rest and set up properly I believe but personally Ive always had better luck with straight tonearms. Hey Jim - I've got a question for you. My question: What are the advantages/disadvantages of each, sonic or otherwise? I found a homeless man living under a single-woman's house onceno kidding. Our publication is supported by its audience. Rather it incorporates a similar interchangeable arm design to my Prime. They are different ergonomically, with the GAE easier to setup and to use perhaps appealing to the record collector, the Prime perhaps appealing more to the true audiophile. I guess I could compare my straight fixed headshell & my curved removable headshell arm wands on my EA-10 tonearm and see if there is much difference in sound. Straight gives you better tracking (needle stays in groove) at the expense of worse record wear. The only straight tonearms are linear tracking tonearms, the rest of the tonearm with straight armtube have an offset angle of the headshell, so they are not actually straight, except for the very short ones like the ViV Lab for example. Going from there to the turntable, they attract some dust from the air because of the static the VPI cleaning generates. Because of the extra pivot offset, extra arm length, combined with the angled head shell and extra inertial weight, the angled arm benefits with much less groove angle distortion and, ultimately, smoother sounding music. What "game" was changed by Rega pick-up arms? Now all I need is to get the boommobiles to go away. I think a straight arm is best, all else being equal. That phrase, "all else being equal", is essential, as a good turntable with an S-shaped arm is much better than a piece of junk table with a straight arm. Mike Thiel and Madeline12 like this. The real key to me of any TT system is the drive systemhow quiet and how isolated from air and earth-born vibrations is the platter/chassis? The tone arm angle is called offset angle Regardless of whether you select a straight arm or curved arm, proper setup is key. But in practice fact of the matter is Ive never had results with S arms like with straight and most quality tables these days use straight probably for good reason. 2. The J kind is difficult to balance while the S can be, balanced by lifting up the front side of the TT and then moving the, later weight till the arm reach equilibrium postion. Although it is correct to say that an "S" shaped tonearm often facilitates the incorporation of a removable head shell into the design, it is not axiomatic that this would be so. As far as my phono stage goes I don't think it's a problem. Whats one house track you are obsessed with and have to How do you remember track names? The table was always jumpy, I know because I used it in college and always had the best luck when it was mounted on a shelf. The OP was talking about the difference between s-shaped and straight arms, both with a bent (offset) headshell. That is one of the biggest improvements in playback quality you can make. Discussion in 'Turntables' started by I upgraded to a McIntosh 6500 integrated amp a couple years ago, but by then I was sick of the skips. IF YOU JOINED ON JUNE 25TH TO JULY 18TH, GO. What turntable are you going to get Keith? Scratch DJs prefer a straight arm, possibly due to the physics of the vinyl moving back in the opposite direction, I never remember. Most DJ arms are "underhung" to aid in scratching, whereas straight tonearm with an offset headshell used for accurate audio replay are overhung. I suppose I could run a few 2x6's across the floor joists, and then put heavy supports underneath first and see how it stabilizes things. Having started my research, I have noticed that some well reviewed turntables have curved 'arms. So, why is it that the majority of modern tonearms are straight? Light weight straight tone arms have the increased risk of unwanted resonance due to standing resonance waves along the entire length. Straight Arm Wear! If you need new vents they are about $15 each at Home Depot, are a push-in fit the same size as a standard cement block, and have a bi-metallic thermostat that closes the louvers when it gets cold keeping your floor warmer in the winter and with the vapor barrier will keep the ground moisture from entering your sub-floor. Straight Tone Arm Vs. Curved Tone Arm. Thanks for the helpful post, YS. I much prefer the nice curves of my tonearm to a stiff rod. 4.3 out of 5 stars 731. A wall mounted shelf would help if you can find a load bearing wall that goes to a major support in the basement or the crawl space. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > coppercitymt New Member. The SpJ tonearm as used on the La Luce Centoventi turntable uses the secondary pivot to stabilize the arm. It's the angle of the cartridge and the pivot point of the arm that count. The GAE has a double gimball bearing arrangement. Any shelf construction tips would be appreciated as I'm an electrician, not a carpenter. Jump to content Not sure who thought of it first (Conti or Spotheim) but that point is irrelevant to this discussion. I keep one straight one angled. I have a different question. The idea behind curved tonearms is to reduce cartridge tracking error. Vinyl Record Cleaning Arm - Anti Static Brush for Vinyl Records - Adjustable Record Player Cleaner Arm For Turntables - Anti Static Vinyl Brush w/ Carbon Fiber Center Bristles - LP Record Accessories. Great question, one I've never had an answer for. I believe the single unbroken run of wire is great in theory, but popy**** in reality. by Paladin 10 Feb 2008 18:31, Post In either case you can buy adjustable floor supports that are threaded and can be vertically turn-adjusted (cranked) to hit the bottom of the joist and stabilize it. by Paladin 10 Feb 2008 19:09, Post Ive made extreme examples and the sketches are quick and primitive but I you should be able to see the evolution of arm shapes and how the longer arm, even though folded, must have a further offset giving a larger TT. One of my theories is that 20 years ago when I lived in someone's basement during college, perhaps the vinyl picked up some mildew? Once, I figured maybe putting that curve in an arm would add off axis mass and help with anti-skating forces by adding mass to the side of the needle that was on the part of the groove facing inward? Raul, based on what I have learned over the last few years, I would also prefer a fixed pivot. By Take a look at this! Does anybody know where and how I should earth the tone arm? Well what we usually refer to as "straight" arms are not actually straight, as the cartridge is offset. Like many trends in turntable design, the bends give no appreciable advantage in resonance control. "He'll never know! The arm could be any shape as long as it's stiff and balanced. I only have a very brief (3 page) manual for the arm and would appreciate any help in setting up the arm. 3. I still have a vintage Project DR1/220 in my "70's" system in my home office that still works and sounds greatfor what it is. I did not know that the Continuum has a secondary bearing, I thought it was a unipivot. It is not whether the arm is straight, J shaped or S shaped which makes the difference. But in general S and J shaped arms tend to be heavy and straight ones light. Is one tone arm better than the other with tracking regarding a straight design versus a curved design? However, it does mean that the "pull" of the stylus in the groove is now being applied at an angle to the pivot point, instead of directly. I know S shaped arms have more mass if all else is equal as the curve means the wand is longer (but not longer in terms of effective length). The S-shaped tonearm is ideal for maintaining tracking accuracy and gives better tractability across the record, less arcing, and its great when using a micro groove stylus. the rest of arms as pointed prior either curved or with s-shaped tube. Damn these threads, now I'm obsessing over my tonearm and set up again. Location: Bemidji, Minnesota, USA. Many trials and tests later, Im finally happy to introduce The DHC STR8 ARM for Technic 1200s series. The table you have is decent for sure. Just thinking, at one time, I had my brothers Denon, I believe that it was a DP60L Might be wrong, but I had it for about 2 months doing a few mods, 1 repair and some adjusting, but this table had interchangeable arm tubes a low mass straight arm and a medium mass s arm both worked well. there are perfectly straight arms, but they're mostly used for DJ scratching. So do the worlds best turntables. I even went out and purchased a new cartridge and needle and still happened. Sckott Hand Tighten Only. OK, here goes. I dare say cost in manufacturing will also play a roll. I have had both, shoot, I have both now. (The solder connections at the bottom of the arm to the interlink to the phono stage came adrift). Hi, I am another newcomer to the forum. The Graham features VTA adjustment on-the-fly. J and Straight arms mostly use proprietary headshells, or non at The two bends add rigidity to vibration compared to a straight tube and flexural waves will be attenuated. But I hardly use it since my floor isn't sturdy enough and so walking is a very risky thing when a record is playing. The vapor barrier plastic (6-8 mil) comes in rolls and once you position it you just start rolling and at the end turn around move over and roll your way back. Over the last 40 years I have owned 3 turntables. Is one tone arm better than the other with tracking regarding a straight design versus a curved design? With those, one gives up correct tracing geometry to get more reliable scratching without the arm skipping. So, who first promulgated that thought, Bertrand Russell or William Butler Yeats? Of course, it has an "S" arm on it. The curved or "S" shaped arm always seemed like they did nothing except to add mass. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Thanks a lot guys, I just googled a few different tonearms and only just noticed that in all of them, the headshell is offset. As you guys said. I For a straight tonearm the accuracy of the headshell offset angle is very important for the lowest possible tracking error and unfortunately not all are created equal in this regard. When I was younger one of the best TT packages I owned was a Technics SP10 direct drive with one of 2 "S" shaped SME arms. One or two supports may be enough the solidify the foot-fall vibrations as you walk. Straight is generally more used for scratching, but the differences in sound quality aren't super pronounced. This is why manufacturers like SME and Kuzma use tapered arm wands and Continuum uses the cigar shape. The 'S' curve in the arm is designed to dissipate any external vibrations along its length, whilst positioning the stylus at the correct angle for optimum sound reproduction across In a scratch DJ arm, the needle will "underhang" or come up short about 3/8" behind the spindle. You may have to register before My small dilemma is that I want to get a turntable like a Denon or a Kenwood to match my system. I don't think any of the above is of importance. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Thanks for any input. An entry level Dual from the '70's, a Denon DP-52F (which I still use in my office I currently use an Exact 2 in my Rega. My SL1200GAE does have very steady speed, is quiet and all that. And that's the reason "DJ" applications use a straight tone arm. I replaced 100% of the house wring a few years ago, and had to do considerable structural work on this house. Cartridge/Phono stage2.) Anyway, if anyone is interested I will try and offer some additional perspective on the matters under discussion to the already excellent points made. You could also consider doing the same thing with a mid-priced Rega or other non-suspended table. When your are down there you might also want to do a couple of things: Clean out all wood debris that you can; put down a poly vapor barrier under the entire crawl space that you can reach and leave about a 1-2 foot rim of exposed dirt at the outer inside-edge by the cement block foundation; check your cross vents and make sure they have good screen and wire mesh on them to keep rodents out!!!. In a high fidelity arm, the needle will "overhang" the spindle by 1/2" or so. Then I realized I had it backwards, so maybe that extra mass on the outside caused some torque/rotation in the arm and "rotated" the needle in such a way that it was able to more forcefully push on the outer facing groove and resist the skating force of the inner facing groove. To save space. Its OK Keith. Sound Media Group Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Same reason I believe behind long tonearms and parallel tracking tonearms. But bent, the pivot can be nearer the platter. The vapor barrier plastic (6-8 mil) comes in rolls and once you position it you just start rolling and at the end turn around move over and roll your way back. The last time I looked,most high end tables come with a straight arm. In a pivoted tonearm, the offset angle of the cartridge and the length of the tonearm is what determines the tracking error, not the actual shape of the arm wand. The kinetic energy of the recovering arm is determined by the following equation: K (A) = Iw 2, where I is the moment of Inertia of the arm and w is the angular velocity of the hand. I am hoping you live in the southern U.S. and not tyrying to do this in Buffalo or Chicago right now. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. An overhung straight tonearm on a DJ turntable has a tracking error of between -6 and +17 degrees depending on how far through the record you are, which, compared to other tonearm The weather has been good right now, but it still seems like a spring project to me. Yes, I meant straight up to the headshell. The wire was pulled into the arm tube but stopped halfway to the cartridge end. Yes, I am interested in your thoughts. My apologies. I would not trade an sub $500 table for it. "In the golden age of vinyl back in the 70s selling at Tech Hifi, Lafayette and Radio Shack I always levitated to tables with straight arms. There will be those that make decisive statements about the merits of direct drive vs. belt drive, complete with golden ear claims about tone/pitch perfection and such, most if not all of which have been debunked over the years in repeated double blind tests. Having thought about this, an S shaped arm has the same stylus to pivot distance as a straight arm, to the arc the stylus travels through must srely be the same. It looks like the OP is looking for a table that comes with an arm included. Question, how much would i need to psend to make a real upgrade of my current setup, and/or is there another path I need to consider? There's no real advantage to curved arms. June 7, 2010 in General Hi-Fi Discussion. After i do the bracing perhaps an isolation platter would do what is needed. Thanks a lot guys, I just googled a few different tonearms and only just noticed that in all of them, the headshell is offset. by Paladin 10 Feb 2008 16:20, Post The reason you would choose to buy a turntable with a straight arm as opposed to a curved arm is for scratch control. A straight tone arm has a completely different position, angle and range of grip and is set-up so DJs can scratch with high precision without the worry of skipping records. I think you are confusing the issue. It is also problematic to make bold statements about bearing configurations. They may not be suitable for your installation, because it depends on how well isolated the table location might be. I have also had in my home Music Hall, 5,7, and 9's which are also excellent performers at there respective price points. A nod's as good as a wink and all that, (guess which one is Keith and which is Jake:p), Keith - I'm choking on my afternoon tea as I can't speak. This should be fixable with a few things from Home Depot or Lowes. Sorry to disappoint you guys but properties like stiffness depend greatly on type of material, mechanical properties of the material, length to diameter ratio, you can't just say J shape better than straight pipe or vice versa. For example, my Prime single pivot tonearm was recently modified and significantly improved sonically by the addition of a second pivot, developed by VPI. Sound Media Group Pty Ltd http://www.tubebooks.org/Books/intro_RDH4.pdf, http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=vinyl&m=650079, Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. Just discovered mono split mixing and its a game changer. No worries.we understand. Just bring the arm over to the spindle. Clifton. Hi, for those bros have played enough with turntables: is there significant difference between the straight arm design vs the curved arm (J-shape, like the SL1200) in terms of sound quality? Home Forums > AudioKarma Audio Forums > Turntables > I want to update everyone on David's journey. Once you've done a little "dirty work" under the house I think you will be in good shape. The turntable issue is more one of should you upgrade your phono stage first. I am not sure which of these two TTs is the better of the two. I like Rega products, but I want to be able to use different cartridges and adjust VTA without using shims. The Vestax arm is short, thus has no overhang. I curremtly have a Rega P3 which I really enjoy for not only it's sonic qualities, but it's utter simplicity. Platter/bearing system3.) Curved configurations in most cases cannot be reconfigured. I don't think we will ever be able to measure/listen anyway as no one manufactures two models of the same tonearm with detachable and fixed headshells. Aquateen, Jan 7, 2003 #1. Longer arms more closely approximate a tangent but their higher moving mass involves other compromises such as reduced rigidity. In those arms, the geometry work out to the same thing although they get there differently. To get the right offset angle, the arm was bent in a fashion that allows a straight headsell to line up correctly. It is the quality of workmanship, bearing and materials that make the difference. If so, this just became a spring project. Using the same cartridge, the two TTs/arm combinations do sound somewhat different, but as to which is "better" or more "accurate" I cannot say. But that should be easy to decide with either arm anyway. I hope I am not spoiling your day. You, I believe, are talking about straight, non-offset arms used for scratching. Its more for at home HiFis. It is a rather hard concept to figure out but once the concept sinks in, it is a magic key to explain why there are weird shaped arms that make smoother sounding music. Long arms are a better design as the arc the arm moves across is larger and linear tracking would be the best if the world was prefect. I have thought about going into the dirt crawl space and reinforcing the floor from below. The J and S shape tonearms (need to) use the so called ''lateral, balance'' weight in order to get equal pressure on both horizontal, bearings. I must have been blind or something! I think its just wrapped up as a xmas pressie. Somehow, the OP's actual question about pivoted tonearms with straight vs curved arm tubes (or "wands") got completely lost as the discussion turned to turntable and speaker mass. First, I have a VPI record-washer, their cheapest model (about $450-$500), which has been superb. StereoNET (Australia) is part of an international network of publications owned wholly by Sound Media Group (Australia). It's a functional and useful design. Interesting thoughts on the subject. ", Sound Media Group Pty Ltd If the azimuth cannot be fixed by the limited headshell adjustment, you really need to return the cart you bought, you have a cartridge problem not a tonearm problem. For shielding? I have used a couple of different fluids in it, but the Record Research Lab fluid (I order mine from Acoustic Sounds) works best. Also the number of connections the phono cable has to pass through is important, the less the better. Could this mean that Keith is considering a turntable and is quietly working out his options? Should we watch this space??? Cheers wolster I would not say that straight or S shape is per se the determining factor regarding sound quality. As mentioned above, straight tonearms have the headshell offset, so its not realy straight. curved sounds better on vinyl and produces less record wear. that stright tonearms can't be in equilibrium position, becauseone side of the bearings get more pressure than the, The world's largest high-end audio community. So, Warwick, are you saying that an S shaped arm would have more torsional rigidity but at the expense of more mass? Many record players, especially high-end models, offer adjustable tracking pressure that, when set It will depend on the material used for the wand itself and the amount and type of damping material used inside to prevent ringing. Since it has been a couple of months, I don't know if you have solved your dust bunny problem, but here's what I do to LP's that habitually offend. I also own another VPI HW19 fitted with an SME Series III, another "S" shaped arm and have owned this one since 1989. Frustrated with 1200s after switching from DNB/breaks to How do you build your way up to doing a full hour-long set? If it is a dirt crawl space you should put a 12" or 16" square cement patio block below it in the dirt. A Rega P5maybe! In my experience other desirable features when considering a tonearm include: a single unbroken run of cable between cartridge pins and phono preamp input connectors; low friction bearings; proper damping; ability to adjust every parameter to optimise VTA, VTF, azimuth, anti-skate, overhang, alignment. You can tell the two different straight arm types apart very easily by seeing where the stylus lands relative to the spindle. I am well aware of my crawl space. I am reminded of the wisdom of Bertrand Russell, "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.". S arms were, among other things, an attempt to add length to the tonearm, since most tonearms are limited in length because they need to fit inside the space that is occupied by the turntable when the dust cover is closed. SME is making some very long straight tonearms for their high end turntables - over 233 mm. Straight gives you better tracking (needle stays in groove) at the expense of worse record wear. No one has gone wrong buying a Music Hall product. This tone arm is a big improvement in tracking and anti skating. BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven. All of these turntables have had straight tonearms. 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